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I disagree with your statement, “Jesus dying in our place was obviously not morally right by any means.” I believe it was morally right. Jesus said in John that,”Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friend.” By dying on the cross, Jesus was doing what was morally right because he was sacrificing himself and obeying His Father in Heaven. We did not deserve Jesus’ sacrifice, and our sin is unjust, but there had to be a sacrifice to atone for our sins. A sacrifice for our sins would satisfy justice, and God decided that that sacrifice would be Jesus.
I think Luke was arguing from the standpoint of Plato’s idea of justice, not from the Christians point of view. I could, however, be wrong.
I still am confused by your argument. You talk a lot about the programs that alter video but you never talk about the justice or injustice of it. You mention that it might be used in the political field and that it would create an awful society like in 1984. So are you concluding that using this editing software in the political field to alter what people say is unjust?
I think I understand your overall point, but I believe you are contradicting yourself at some points. I think your point is that it is unjust for companies to drain money from common people. You say that if a person cannot afford a lawyer, the government will supply one, but the government will not always supply one to poor people. So are poor people being provided a lawyer or not?
From what you are saying, it seems that you are implying that the government should supply everyone with the money to defend themselves against the government. That the government is unjust to not supply lawyers to those in the middle class. I think, however, you mean that it is unjust for companies to mercilessly fight people in court. When they do this, people lose a lot of money, and their lives are often ruined. Companies are concerned with their own affairs and not the affairs of the city thus making them unjust. So, if I understood your main point correctly, I believe that I agree with it, I was just expanding on your argument.
Yes, I think that agrees with my argument. I think that was what I was trying to say, but it did not come out clearly so thank you.October 11, 2017 at 6:44 pm in reply to: how society shapes the individual's view of justice #1269
I agree with Kaydy. The discussions on revenge look mostly like a disagreement on the definition of revenge. I think the bottom line is this: the king acted justly by punishing the wicked servant, and the wicked servant acted unjustly because he treated his servant wrongly.
The question, “How does society shape our view of justice” is the vital question for us to ask. As I mentioned in my previous response, our society will shape and form our minds unless we resist it by steeping ourselves in the word of God. This time of our lives is a very crucial time. We are trying to figure out who we are in God, and what it means to serve Him. The world especially wants to shape our minds at this time of life because we are young. We must be constantly vigilant and close to God.
I’m not saying talking about revenge is unbeneficial or wrong… I am simply saying that it is important for us to understand how society is trying to shape our view of justice.October 10, 2017 at 10:00 pm in reply to: how society shapes the individual's view of justice #1254
I would like to emphasize how society shapes our view of justice. As Kaydy said, society urges us to protect ourselves and not worry about others. But how does society implant these ideas in our minds? We are in a great school that seeks justice, but most kids attend public schools. In the 20th century, John Dewey and others transformed the public school system to separate kids from their parents in order to teach kids ideas that would make them conform to the state instead of family and moral values. These new ideas largely focus on the self or caring for one’s own. This mindset is similar to Thrasymachus’s idea that justice is the advantage of the stronger. Our generation seeks injustice over justice and believes injustice produces the happier life. Because they have lost their sense of morality, they have no desire to act justly, for it would not benefit their happiness. We must be extremely careful not to allow these ideas of self-worth and promotion distort our beliefs about justice. We must renew our minds with the word of God to withstand the forces of our society
“Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will.” Romans 12:2